59. Next Level Income

“When you understand that your self-worth is not determined by your net-worth, then you’ll have financial freedom.” 

–Suze Orman

This is the 3rd podcast of PodMax Live, round 2! Continuing on the “money” theme and conversation around investing, integrity, and even bringing that athlete competitive mentality to business. Chris shares his journey and process and even touches on CrossFit… some of you will either love it or fast forward ha. Either way this cast is chalk full of great info, particularly if you are parents and you are working to get into the conversation of money, wealth, and saving for your kiddos. Chris breaks it down how he works with his kids around money, how often they go to the bank, and their “inner family” savings conversations. Chris has his MBA, is a fellow podcaster, and is the author of, you guessed it, Next Level Income. Next Level Income focuses on how to make, keep, and grow your money using the “holy grail of real estate” to achieve financial independence. Get that long term, generational wealth paper! Cheers, enjoy:)


Competing as an athlete and as a business person. Saving, investing, real estate, long term generational wealth. Kids and money. Financial education. Financial tools, resources, books, and podcasts. Finding your authentic self, operating with integrity, and creating passive income so you can enjoy the journey in alignment… aka that much more. Questioning a better way, graceful disruption. 

Christopher Larsen

Christopher Larsen is the founder and Managing Partner of Next-Level Income, through which he helps investors become financially independent through education and investment opportunities. Chris has been investing in and managing real estate for over 20 years. While completing his degree in Biomechanical Engineering and M.B.A. in Finance at Virginia Tech, he bought his first single-family rental at age 21. During his subsequent career in the medical device industry, Chris expanded into development, private-lending, buying distressed debt as well as commercial office, and ultimately syndicating multifamily properties. He began syndicating deals in 2016 and has been actively involved in over $150M of real estate acquisitions. In addition to real estate, Chris has invested in equities, oil & gas, and small business lending, as well as being active in Venture South, one of the nation’s Top 10 Angel Investing groups. Chris lives with his wife and two boys in Asheville, NC where he loves spending time with them in the outdoors and enjoying the food and culture that the region has to offer.

Next Level Income (the book):

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Chris Larsen wrote his book, Next-Level Income, to illustrate how the goal of investing shouldn’t be just about money. This book is not only about investing in real estate; it is about the search for financial freedom and the freedom that it can provide in your life. In the book, Chris shares some of his life experiences and why he now invests in real estate. His mission in writing the book was to help others achieve financial independence.

Chris bought his first rental property at age 21 and has spent the last 20 years owning, managing and investing in many types of real estate. He also has spent more than 15 years in the medical device industry working with doctors and surgeons. Today he enjoys working with individuals to help them Make money, Keep more money and ultimately grow their money through what he calls “The Holy Grail” of real estate.

In the pages of this book, Chris shares his experiences of how he achieved financial freedom. You will learn how Chris can help you create a life of financial freedom so that you can live life on your own terms, and focus on your passions in life.



58. Young Entrepreneurship

Young aspiring entrepreneurs, this cast is for you! This is the second cast of Podmax Live round 2 and we are focusing on money, investing, and business- from the young person’s perspective. I welcome Trevor Oldham on to the T&T mic to share his business journey 23 years in the making… yes, he is just 23 and has started several businesses, is thriving in his current one, Podcasting You, and is now a published author! Trevor shares his successes and failures, from product reselling, to knock offs (by accident!), to deep importance of customer service. It is so inspiring to see a young person chase their dreams early AND do it with integrity at the forefront of the mission. It’s not all about money, it’s about people and the way you treat them. There are some great biz tips and tricks in here and if you’re just looking to try something out small and a new entrepreneur, you just might be able to repeat some of Trevor’s initial steps- grab a note pad. We cover the startup, influencer marketing, and everything in-between! Great work, Trevor, can’t wait to see what is next for you! Cheers!!


Entrepreneurship at a young age, high school, college, post college. Business failures and successes. How to get a business started. The importance of people and customer service. Influencer marketing, reselling, and lessons learned hard. From making $7/hour to starting a business and making much, much more… questioning a better way. 

Trevor Oldham, Founder of Podcasting You

As the founder of Podcasting You, I understand that it can be difficult to reach your audience in a noisy world.

That’s why I started Podcasting You in 2017 from my dorm room after seeing the first-hand results from being a podcast guest and being able to speak directly to my ideal audience on a 1-on-1 format.

I knew that there were successful individuals whom the world needed to know about and hear from, but haven’t had the chance to share their story.

Through being an expert podcast guest, we give our clients the opportunity to directly speak to their ideal audience and share their story and expertise which leads to increase leads, attracting new customers, and growing their brand. If you are looking to have us Podcast You, please apply here

Podcasting You is a done for you podcast booking agency that enables six and seven-figure individuals to speak to their ideal audience to increase leads, attract new customers, and grow their brand.

57. Investing In: Yourself, People, Real Estate

Today we talk INVESTING… in yourself, others, and of course, business (real estate). This is the first interview of my second PodMax Live event! I will have two more casts coming out after this one all focusing around money. You know how passionate I am about the dollar- how we earn, spend it, and invest it. Conscious consumers are a must in 2020!! Kevin is an all-around investment expert, so I am excited to welcome him on T&T to discuss the importance of investing all the way around. Kevin, like many of us, changed majors a few times, landing with a Biology Degree from UC Berkley, but really revealed entrepreneurial soul when he read the book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, by Robert T. Kiyosaki. Kevin has a wealth of experience in the real estate industry, focusing on building communities and teaching the keys to long-term wealth along the way. He specializes in low income communities and leads all personal and business initiatives with the idea of caring for people and paying it forward wherever he can. Money makes the world go round, for better or worse, so it’s great to know we have responsibility, heart-led businesses people leading the way, like Kevin. Learn about money early folks, it will make all the difference… knowing that everything that really matters cannot be bought. 🙂


Paying it forward. Learning how to invest in yourself, others, and manage your money. Learn about money and learn early. Get to know yourself and know that all is right on time. Taking care of people and recognizing we are all human. Business is but a game, dial into what really matters. What is really the point? Graceful disruption and questioning a better way. Generation and mental health and wealth. 

Kevin Dugan, Investment Expert 

Kevin Dugan is a serial entrepreneur with a diverse background in building remote teams, acquiring underperforming assets, construction management, asset management, and dynamic experience in industrial b2b robotics sales for the medical | aerospace | government |semiconductor | gas & oil sectors. He takes the complex and makes it simple.

He is currently the Managing Partner of Altus Investment Group, a fast-growing private equity firm with 35AUM that specializes in acquiring, repositioning, operating, and selling residential and commercial properties that are underperforming. His team implements systemized improvements and proven processes to maximize the net income of the assets. These investments did not achieve their potential due to poor management, operational inefficiencies, or outdated materials causing rents to drop below market values. Altus is vertically integrated with in house property management, full-time general contractors, and an acquisition group. 

He is big on education and teaches co-founded one of the fastest-growing multifamily meetup (MultiFamilyMasters.com) communities in Los Angeles, that has grown rapidly to 7600 members in a little over a two.

​He believes that holistic investing is an integral part of life. You should always be investing in yourself and your education, in your relationships and network, and your capital into secured investment vehicles. His passion is to create massive value and educate others to achieve financial freedom through active and passive real estate acquisitions.  

​A Los Angeles native, Mr. Dugan holds a degree from UC Berkeley with a concentration in Biology. He found his calling as an entrepreneur late in college after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad and is now on a mission to continuously create massive value for others.


Atlus Investment Group

Altus Investment Group was founded on the idea to lift everyone in the family (clients, strategic partners, and the employees) to the highest levels financially and mentally so you can live the life you deserve.

Altus is a vertically integrated real estate acquisition and management company with nation-wide holdings and has the sole focus to build generational wealth through passive real estate investments for our clients. 

Our philosophy on investing in real estate is to create great wealth through holding real estate property long term, allowing investors to benefit from increased cash flows, appreciation, huge tax benefits, and the ability to exit at the proper time in the market cycle. With more than four decades of collective experience, our team actively creates lasting, valued relationships with our investors by carefully selecting secure investment projects that prosper and grow throughout all economic cycles over.

Our mission is to help YOU attain financial freedom by providing support, education and passive cash flow real estate investments.





56. Conscious Living & Continuous Learning

Conscious living and continuous learning… the process never really ends! Today I welcome Dr. Lindsey Elmore to T&T and we touch on just about everything as Lindsey has a plethora of knowledge and a deeply diverse set of life experiences. Business, nutrition, marketing, injury, yoga, personal growth, and of course breakdowns and breakthroughs! Lindsey shares her journey with equal parts vulnerability and confidence, knowing that one doesn’t grow without the other. She shares that an early life eating disorder fed the need for attention and a later in life knee injury (torn ACL, just like me… and my pup Kleo:) fostered clarity in that need for attention and what it really meant to me sick/injured. The ACL injury also opened her up to a whole new world natural remedies, treatments, essential oils- all while being a pharmacist. Lindsey was feeling the juxtaposition of the Turmeric & Tequila life early on… I identified strongly (excerpt for the “being a doctor” part, ha). Lindsey is a published author and fellow podcaster, speaking in over 30 countries and leading her marketing business as strong and continuously learning entrepreneur. This is a great cast for anyone learning to embrace their imperfections, “failures”, and for all of us that are still learning on so many levels. Learn from Lindsey’s journey and please be inspired to share yours as you never know who it could help! 

“Life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it.”

– Charles R. Swindoll


That Turmeric & Tequila life: being all things and embracing our competitive edges (aka differences). Casting a vision/ Graceful Disruption™. Self-awareness, improvement, and acceptance. Marketing and branding. Nutrition, dairy, and inflammation. Business and great quotes. Breakdowns, breakthroughs. Evolution and helping streamline someone else’s process. 

Dr. Lindsey Elmore

Dr. Lindsey Elmore is a pharmacist, natural wellness expert, vegan cook, yogi, podcast host, and business strategy coach. Originally from Birmingham, AL, Dr. Elmore obtained an undergraduate degree in chemistry from the University of Alabama, Birmingham and a doctorate in pharmacy from the University of California San Francisco. She completed her first-year post-doctoral residency in pharmacy practice at Princeton Baptist Medical Center in Birmingham, AL and her second-year specialty residency in ambulatory care at New Hanover Regional Medical Center in Wilmington, NC.  She is a Board-Certified Pharmacotherapy Specialist and licensed to practice in three states.  

Through her own personal challenges, Dr. Elmore discovered Chinese medicine, herbal medicines, supplement, vitamins and mineral, chiropractic care, and yoga and meditation and this started her on a natural wellness journey. Her whole world turned upside down when she discovered essential oils. She has spent years applying the knowledge of a pharmacist to the practice of essential oil usage. She founded the YL Education Club to teach others about the power of essential oils in their daily life, as well as how to avoid side effects and drug interactions when using them. 

Dr. Elmore is a speaker, author, and world-renowned wellness expert.  She translates complicated science into understandable stories, and travels the world educating audiences about natural wellness.  Dr. Elmore has spoken to audiences on five continents and more than 35 countries.  Her educational materials have been translated into more than 25 languages. Dr. Elmore reaches millions on social media. Her Facebook content reaches more than 85 countries, and more than 15 million minutes of education have been watched on Facebook alone. 

She is the author of Essentials: 75 Answers to Common Questions about Essential Oils and Supplements, and the Clean Slate Cleanse Cookbook and Workbook series. She is published in a wide variety of pharmacy and medical journals, and has been quoted in Healthline, Bustle, Elite Daily, Reader’s Digest, Yahoo News, Parade, MSN, Brit + Co, Business Insider and more. She has been featured on news segments on NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, CW, and the Daily Buzz. 

Dr. Elmore is the founder of Rasayana Yoga, a Certified 250-hour vinyasa, yin, and Aroma Yoga® Instructor, an Aroma Freedom practitioner, and the creator of the Clean Slate Cleanse, a gluten free, vegan food course.  She is the founder of Brand Strategies Lab, a business strategy company for both entrepreneurs and companies where she helps create greater clarity in messaging and attracts more of the right customers. Her podcast, The Lindsey Elmore Show, combines all of her diverse learning into one overarching concept of health. She interviews doctors, spiritual gurus, entrepreneurs and game changers. 




Her gluten-free, vegan foodstagram can be found @cleanslatecleanse on Instagram and @thecleanslatecleanse on Facebook, and www.cleanslatecleanse.com online. 

Her business coaching can be found at @brandstrategieslab on Instagram and www.lindseyelmore.com/bsl. She also has an adorable calico kitten @notthepuppy on Instagram.